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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:10 pm ()
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Выделено из темы «Где почитать про верстку с помощью <DIV> для начинающих?»,
расположенной в форуме Прочее (27 Июля 2005, 00:04).
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:10 pm (спустя 1 секунду; написано за 8 минут 16 секунд)
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Дмитрий Котеров
Дмитрий Котеров wrote:
div-ами таблицу из 2 столбцов
делать как раз-таки не нужно. Таблицы для табличных данных и задумывались. Если речь идёт про "колонки", то ждём CSS3, а пока что обходятся как-то так:
Code (html): скопировать код в буфер обмена
<div (december.com/html/4/element/div.html) class="wrapper"> (december.com/html/4/element/.html)
        <div (december.com/html/4/element/div.html) class="left"> (december.com/html/4/element/.html)left</div>
        <div (december.com/html/4/element/div.html) class="right"> (december.com/html/4/element/.html)right<br (december.com/html/4/element/br.html) /> (december.com/html/4/element/.html)column<br (december.com/html/4/element/br.html) /> (december.com/html/4/element/.html)long<br (december.com/html/4/element/br.html) /> (december.com/html/4/element/.html)text</div>
        <div (december.com/html/4/element/div.html) class="clearing"> (december.com/html/4/element/.html)</div>
</div>
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Code (css): скопировать код в буфер обмена
.wrapper {
        /* здесь задаём _картинку_ c бекграундом */
        background-image: url('/img/leftcolbg_and_border.gif');
        background-position: top left;
        background-repeat: repeat-y;
       
        width: 100%;
}
.left {
        float: left;
        width: 200px;
}
.right {
        float:right;
}
.clearing {
        height: 0px;
        clear:both;
}
Не тестировал, но должно заработать (-:
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:17 pm (спустя 1 час 7 минут; написано за 4 минуты 2 секунды)
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Евгений Галашин wrote:
Не тестировал, но должно заработать
Да, оно работает, только для .clearing желательно фиксированную ширину задавать -- иначе если после загрузки страницы её ширину уменьшить, то весь дизайн "полетит". По-моему, пусть уж лучше появляется горизонтальная прокрутка.


P.S. Кстати, вот тут fc-volga.ru/index.php?module=xSiteMap "Карта сайта" именно так и свёрстана (ну, чуть посложнее -- лучше смотреть firefox'ом).
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:55 pm (спустя 5 часов 38 минут; написано за 3 минуты 51 секунду)
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Юpий Насрeтдинов wrote:
Ты знаешь, она скорее надуманная.
Не согласен. Очень и очень актуальная. Мы на работе уже озадачены тем, что буржуи довольно часто используют дивы, нежели мы.
Евгений Галашин wrote:
Таблицы для табличных данных и задумывались.
Вот именно.

Дизайн на основе таблиц - результат безысходности дизайнера, ИМХО.
Кстати, Яндекс почти полностью на дивах; на lostmarble.com/ вообще нет тега <table>, зато как смотрится!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:21 pm (спустя 25 минут; написано за 1 минуту 53 секунды)
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Константин Жинько [tIT] wrote:
Кстати, Яндекс почти полностью на дивах
Только что проверил... Товарисч, ну как не стыдно в лицо врать-то, а?
Константин Жинько [tIT] wrote:
Не согласен. Очень и очень актуальная.
В любом случае, я лично предпочитаю верстать таблицами+яваскрипт, нежели дивы+CSS, т.к. я люблю относительно простые и железобетонные решения, чем запутанные, но элегантные. Почему - а потому, что «железобетонными» намного проще управлять.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:04 pm (спустя 43 минуты; написано за 2 минуты 22 секунды)
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Константин Жинько [tIT]
Сделано прикольно, но на lostmarble.com/lmstitch/index.shtml прокол шарик наполовину под меню уходит.
А в остальном - сцупер!
Дуглас Адамс wrote:
Кажется, мне это нравится, - задребезжал голос из ржавой грудной клетки [Марвина].
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:48 am (спустя 4 часа 43 минуты; написано за 55 секунд)
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Юpий Насрeтдинов wrote:
Товарисч, ну как не стыдно в лицо врать-то, а?
Подсчитай в процентах, сколько тегов table, а сколько div:
Code (html): скопировать код в буфер обмена
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:13 am (спустя 24 минуты; написано за 28 секунд)
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Константин Жинько [tIT]
Это ты мне результаты поиска выдал :). А теперь количество дивов раздели на 10, и получишь реальную картину использования дивов на яндексе :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:36 pm (спустя 1 день 16 часов 23 минуты; написано за 20 минут 37 секунд)
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Константин Жинько [tIT] wrote:
Юpий Насрeтдинов wrote:
Товарисч, ну как не стыдно в лицо врать-то, а?
Подсчитай в процентах, сколько тегов table, а сколько div:
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1. Аналогом div является не table, а скорей td.

2. На первой странице Яндекса все форматирование производиться за счет таблиц. (76 td против 16 div'ов)

3. На странице "Результат поиска", которую Вы приводите действительно div'ов вдвое больше чем td. Но тем не менее функции выполняемые div'ами вполне скромные. На прилагаемом мною рисунке отмечены зоны использования тэгов.
Зона 1 это таблица (с вложенными таблицами), заключенная в div. Зоны 2 и 3 форматируются таблицами, отступ 4 задается тегами ol и li.
Итого на div'ы остаются отступы 5 и 6, а так же вертикальные отступы между строками и параграфам, ну и единственное на странице абсолютное позиционирование блока 1.

Вывод: На Яндексе весьма гармонично используют и table, и div. Никакого особого упора на div'ы там нет.


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Vasich, довно я таких информативно-доказательных постов не видел на этом форуме. [+]
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